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Mar.24,2007I was on reddit today when I saw this awfulness:
I work at a bookstore. I was cashiering today when a woman and her two kids (a boy and a girl, both somewhere between 13-15) came up to the register. The mom was buying 2 celeb gossip magazines, and the boy put down a book. The girl then walked up and set down the newest volume of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series.
The mom says “You can’t buy that.”
Girl: Why?
Mom: Because it’s too big.
Girl: [Brother] is buying a book that big. It’s not very expensive.
Mom: [Brother] is a boy. You’re a girl. And girls shouldn’t read big books like that. It’s too thick. Boys don’t like girls who read thick books. You want boys to like you, don’t you?The girl went and put the book away.
Just one more example of stupidity in our world, but this really has to win an award or something. First off, I dig intelligent girls; especially if they have cute glasses. This mom is a fucking retard.
You know, we often blame men or pop culture for brainwashing young girls into being Britney Spears clones with no brains or ambition to do anything but strip, but I think that that assumption is, in itself, sexist. As this little scenario makes clear, sometimes it’s women who most brutally oppress and put-down each other.
I don’t know why this lady is trying to raise her daughter to be an empty-headed slut, but I suspect it has something to do with the bitch being an empty-headed slut herself. Dear daughter might’ve shown signs of actual intelligence, which dear mother perceived as a threat. Maybe she’s afraid her daughter will soon realize that her mom is a pill-popping whore who is too stupid and weak to do anything for herself, so she had to spread her legs and ensnare the first man who fell into her trap. I hope the daughter will be able to overcome her mom’s stupid-slut programming, but it won’t be easy.
It shocks me that this coversation took place in the age of Harry Potter. Those books are thick and they are written by a woman (with cute glasses) who has married a nice man and made a billion dollars doing what she loves. Obviously the mom isn’t a thousandth of the person that J.K. Rowling is, but that only makes the comparison more stark.
The mom in the scenario above is a fucking useless piece of guttertrash and she deserves to fucking suffer for what she’s doing to her own kids. Fuck her and may she burn in hell… BUT … after reading this story I don’t want to hear about how men are oppressing women and all that shit. Sure, it’s true to some extent, but who do young girls trust most and look up to most for guidance in this world? Their mothers of course. And if this is what mothers are still teaching their daughters then why should I have to get blamed for somehow oppressing women or holding them down? Let’s not stereotype, people. It’s so easy to blame men for all of the problems that women face, but that’s a lazy and unfair (and bigoted) mistake.
You know, I’m having trouble finding a beautiful, brainy girl. Stupid cunts like this mother are probably part of the reason why (and yeah, my dirty mouth might be part of it… but do you disagree with my characterization?). Girls: don’t listen to the fucking useless twats who think they know what guys want. I’m a guy, and I want a girl who’s brilliant and funny. If only that was possible. I guess this world does all it can snuff her light out lest it shine too bright.
You can screech back, or trackback from your own site.
<>Let’s not stereotype, people. It’s so easy to blame men for all of the problems that women face, but that’s a lazy and unfair (and bigoted) mistake.<>You are stereotyping and making a false assumption. It /is/ because of years of misogyny and oppression that this mother DID tell her daughter that. Do you think the mother was encouraged to read books at a young age? Or encouraged to do anything other than catch a good man? No, of course not. Feminism is not the problem. Maybe you should save your vitriolic comments for the progenitor of the school of thought that women are inferior (ie: men).
Anonymous does have a point, although it might have been put in a nicer way.Either way, that was a pathetic little scene.I’ve heard a lot of crap in my time (like a 4 year old boy vehemently announcing that girls can’t climb) but this really tops it all.How can someone try to take one of the most wonderful things ever from their own child?I wonder, if someone had kept telling me this often enough that I’d believed it and never read any decently sized books, would I now sit and wonder why I am so malcontent and irritable?I swear, if I couldn’t read, I’d go crazy…
anon: you are the one who is stereotyping. You said, “you should save your vitriolic comments for the progenitor of the school of thought that women are inferior (ie: men)” which is the same narrow, bigoted thinking I was railing against. Let me be clear: You have NO evidence that this woman is fucked up in the head because of men. You certainly want that to be the case so you can continue to blame all of your problems on a single group of people. That sort of thinking is common among neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but by all means, continue to hate and disparage a single group of people. That will make everything okay, right?Now, of course, I agree that men have been naughty for much of human history, but I think you’re giving women a free pass when they are just as complicit and wield a certain “soft power” that needs to be reckoned with. The world we live in is a product of the decisions of both men and women. Your attempts to blame everything on men shows the brilliance of the female’s manipulative tendencies. Everything is always the man’s fault. Bullshit. Take some fucking responsibility.Also, you are encouraging and nurturing sexism in the next generation by blaming someone under 30 (like me — you said “men” not “old men”) for a list of problems that probably looks similar to the list of problems that anti-semites blame on Jews. My point is not that men are blameless. Certainly, they are not. But neither are women, as this hideous case shows quite clearly (and yes, I do think she was probably encouraged to read at a young age). My point is that your hateful and empty rhetoric is causing more problems and sexism than its solving. Don’t you see? The ruling elite (who are, no doubt, mostly men) want to divide us with racism, sexism and the rest. If you become a man-hating prig then you’re just playing into their hands. Divide and conquer: it’s the oldest trick in the book and you fell for it.Feminism, taken to an extreme, <>is<> a problem. You are blaming people like me who were born hundreds of years too late to stop any of this shit, and the only thing you’re managing to do is convince me that you’re a bigoted, sexist, man-hater. The younger generation sees through your bullshit, which is why less and less young women self-identify as feminists. So much of the feminist ideology seems like payback or revenge. That is NOT the way to create a harmonious society… but then again, maybe that’s not your aim.
My point is that you’re creating a logical fallacy. You are saying don’t judge men based on the actions of a few but you are also saying that all women are wrong because of the actions of this 1 mother. So which is it? Or is it just that it’s okay for you to be bigoted and not me?Also, you are correct, I have no evidence that she is fucked up because of men. But it’s still misogynistic thinking that causes people to make such remarks.<>Your attempts to blame everything on men shows the brilliance of the female’s manipulative tendencies. Everything is always the man’s fault. Bullshit. Take some fucking responsibility.<>Manipulative tendencies? Stereotyping much? Besides the fact of which that you know nothing about me. I do take responsibility for my actions. I don’t blame men for everything. And I have news for you, White Males are still the most privileged people in this country. I’m so sorry you have to take a little heat for the way you were born, just like the rest of us.<>You are blaming people like me who were born hundreds of years too late to stop any of this shit, and the only thing you’re managing to do is convince me that you’re a bigoted, sexist, man-hater. The younger generation sees through your bullshit, which is why less and less young women self-identify as feminists. So much of the feminist ideology seems like payback or revenge.<>Hundreds of years too late, eh? While women still make 75 cents on the dollar to do the exact same work as men there will be feminism. Your whole rhetoric is just backlash against what you perceive to be a group that intimidates/ undermines your masculinity or whatever. Feminist don’t hate men. I certainly don’t. You apparently hate feminists though. Which is sad since as you say you are looking for a “beautiful, brainy girl” and most of them are feminists.
anon said: “You are saying don’t judge men based on the actions of a few but you are also saying that all women are wrong because of the actions of this 1 mother.”I am saying no such thing. You’re the one who’s using strawmen because your argument is too weak. Where exactly did I say, “all women are wrong”? You’re fucking making shit up. Show me exactly where I said that, liar.<>And I have news for you, White Males are still the most privileged people in this country. I’m so sorry you have to take a little heat for the way you were born<>That’s funny, because you don’t sound sorry. In fact, you sound positively sarcastic as fuck. Your comment is dripping with jealousy. Trust me, lady, there ain’t no free lunch for being a white male. You seem to think it’s so great or whatever, but it’s not. It’s just a license for people to discriminate against you or to assume that your successes are the result of some imaginary privileged status. I’ve got news for you: the only color that matters in America is <>green<>. And so I sympathize if it’s true that women only make 75 cents on the dollar, but in my personal experience it’s not true. Most of my female friends make more money than me. And in fact, < HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_pay" REL="nofollow">this wikipedia article<> indicates that the 75 cents cliche is almost entirely dependent on the year you were born. The gap has basically narrowed to nothing for my generation (the article predicts it will be gone by 2010, and might even result in a pro-female disparity since the trends show no sign of abating). Basically, the data is not taking into account the older generation and their lack of skills training, a problem that has been fixed for several decades. Does that thrill you? Somehow I suspect you may be disappointed at the loss of your Victim Status. <>Feminist don’t hate men. I certainly don’t. You apparently hate feminists though.<>I don’t hate feminists. Weren’t you paying attention to my arguments (oh, that’s right, you were making up fake ones that would be easier to refute) at all? I said I don’t fall for traps like sexism and racism. Hardcore feminists, while sometimes annoying, are hardly worth blanket hatred. Hating / discriminating against certain groups of people for perceived advantages has gotten us nowhere and is nothing more than an abdication of personal responsibility.I stand by my criticism of feminism. Much of it is a blatant attempt at disenfranchising men the same way women were once disenfranchised. Feminists want a 1 to 1 male to female ratio for doctors, but I don’t hear them making the same demands for garbage collectors or janitors. Gee, it almost seems like a big fucking scam. Obviously, I believe in equal rights, but I think you have to take a hard look at your movement and conclude that not everybody in it has the best of intentions. Perhaps it’s even been infiltrated by the FBI or CIA. You shouldn’t just do whatever the hell Gloria Steinem or some other leader says. Think for yourself. Some feminist ideology is full of shit and damages your movement more than it helps.
I was just going to leave my ‘AMEN!’ and be on my way. But then I saw that your little post has created quite the fire!And all I have to say to this is: Whoa! Slow down! The point of this post, at least in my opinion, was to illustrate that little acts like this just prove the world is so screwed up right now that we’re putting the moronic up on an even higher pedestal that ever before.Let’s face it, on a whole, we’re getting dumber by the second. And I fear that attitudes like the one that this woman showed will never change. As the sole member of my female contingency from college who holds a higher degree and remains unmarried with no plan to do so, I have found that neither my ‘intelligence’, nor my ‘independence’ are things that people really care about. Seriously, I heard more ‘Oh my god! That’s so great!’ when I lost 55 pounds than when I got my degree, or my first supervisory position. Not to mention that my ‘attitude’ has garnered me many a nickname or vocal opinion from others: ‘ice queen’, ‘bitch’, and ‘you’ve got some chip on your shoulder, don’t you girly?’ are just a few that my ears have entertained during the last few years.And I say screw ’em all! I would much rather be a doctor than a trophy wife any day.Now, a few closing remarks for anon:I am female, consider myself relatively intelligent, and although I won’t be stopping traffic with my looks, I won’t be stopping any clocks. I am NOT a feminist. ‘Feminist’, to me, has become an ugly word. Viewed as haters of men and offspring of the oppressed. I am of the opinion that we don’t require ‘feminists’ any longer. The strong broads of the 70s and 80s cracked that glass ceiling and left it to everyone else to shatter it. I used to work in a male dominated field (neurological research) and made just as much, if not more, than my male counterparts. Why? Because I’m a damn good researcher. Not because a piece of paper dictated that because I have two X chromosomes that I should be paid just as much as a being who is XY. Our anatomy does not set us apart in the work force. What does is our brains and our work ethics. So, if you’re making just 75 cents on the $1 your male counter part is making, may I recommend that rather than bitch about it, you should get up off your “beautiful, brainy” ass and prove that you’re worth the whole buck.
Wow, LMMS! Great comment. Thanks for the input. I totally agree — people should either put up or shut up. If you’re gettin’ paid 75% of what your male colleagues are getting paid, why the hell would you wanna work there? Take your skills to someplace where they are appreciated!
I hate big books, especially big hardcover legal ones. Yuck. They hurt my little womanly brain.
< HREF="http://reason.com/news/show/119920.html" REL="nofollow">Another article on the “pay gap.”<> You can make statistics say anything. 47.2% of all people know that.